Unlocking Hera Tani

Unlocking Hera Tani

This is just so pointless. 4 trips for no good reason other than waste time. It's probably going to take me 4 days. I can't imagine that the same people who brought my favourite game back to life could come up with such a useless system as the various engineering unlocks and crafting system that you HAVE to do to progress meaningfully.

I'm just in a miserable mood. Sorry.

God knows if I'm ever going to mine the necessary 250t of whotsits...

Comments

Rich Moran said…
I don't recall having to mine 250tn of whotsits for Hera Tani, only purchasing 50tn of Kamarti cigars. Has it changed?

What are you after, a G5 power plant?
April 24, 2018 at 8:38 AM
Ian Stoffberg said…
Rich Moran Hera Tani is the 50 cigars. It was respawning 15t at a time. After 2 trips I was checking the market and it spawned 45 all of a sudden...
Maybe FDEV saw my post. The 250t is for Selene Jean (I think). I just don't enjoy mining at all.
I'm not looking for a specific component at the moment. I just wanted to unlock all the engineers at some point. Currently working on my Exploration Rank, so figured it's a good way to go to give me a purpose. Just didn't enjoy the shuttling...
April 24, 2018 at 8:48 AM
Carsten Rossner said…
Yeah, engineering and everything related to it sucks and is a mega fail. And I love Elite. It would have ruined the game completely for me if not for solo mode, making pvp optional. Thank god you can still do decent in pve with vanilla ships. The moment that changes I am out for good. Engineering makes no sense at all lorewise. But it has all been said over and over...
April 24, 2018 at 8:51 AM
Rich Moran said…
You sometimes get better returns for rare goods when the system goes into a boom state. I find mining rather therapeutic by the way. 😆
April 24, 2018 at 9:00 AM
Eric Barton said…
Ian Stoffberg What Rich Moran said. Station's in the boom state triples the allocation of rare commodities.
April 24, 2018 at 9:12 AM
Ian Stoffberg said…
Ok. Hera Tani sorted. Now, invite from Broo Tarquin who wants.... Fujin Tea (50t). sigh
April 24, 2018 at 9:13 AM
Ian Stoffberg said…
Eric Barton consider me "schooled". I guess learning the hard way makes it stick ;)
April 24, 2018 at 9:19 AM
Rich Moran said…
Ask questions.. I'm sure there's a few of us who's unlocked most of them and been through the same grind..
April 24, 2018 at 9:53 AM
Ian Stoffberg said…
Rich Moran thanks. I don't think there are many left. Did the worst of them during 2.3 and 2.4
April 24, 2018 at 9:54 AM
Alexey Froloff (raorn) said…
Why suffer and complain about it? Does anyone forcing you unlocking engineers? Just ignore them and enjoy the game.
April 24, 2018 at 10:29 AM
Ian Stoffberg said…
Alexey Froloff
from my post:
"I'm just in a miserable mood. Sorry."

I don't know what else to tell you. My biggest frustration is that elite (for me ) has always been about freedom to do whatever. I hoped that philosophy meant that there were multiple routes to achieve an objective. With engineers its frustratingly linear. The Ram Tah mission with the 2t cargo limitation is another example.

I'm frustrated because I love the game but certain aspects are not enjoyable for me and I sometimes feel like the game is needlessly limiting.

Case in point, I'm down to my last 2 or 3 engineers. I need 50 Decoded Emission data for Tania. In the 2.4 cycle I probably through 100 away because my data inventory was full. I had to limit all of the data to about 20 max per item. Same with the minerals. Now, I need to collect them again.

I will do it, but people identified the material/data inventory shortage issues a while back.

Taking your advice, I'll look on the bright side and be glad they fixed it at least.
April 24, 2018 at 11:12 AM
Alexey Froloff (raorn) said…
Ian Stoffberg nobody is forcing you to do anything. You don't have to unlock engineers or do Ram Tah missions. Why don't you just ignore it and be happy with the game? I really can't understand it...
April 24, 2018 at 11:20 AM
Ian Stoffberg said…
Alexey Froloff I don't think I can explain further. I didn't do the Ram Tah mission because it felt like an artificial limitation to have to drive back and forth 2 my ship 2 rotate cargo. I ignored the season 1 mining before they introduced limpets as I felt the same way about that. They mentioned that the 3.0 season will bring some QOL changes. I hope that the community suggestions will be listened to and some of them addressed. Meantime, I'll keep shipping Fujin Tea, 10t at a time.
April 24, 2018 at 11:27 AM
Martin Chalk said…
The mining requirements are for Selene Jean and Bill Turner.

Selene wants you to have mined 500t of anything, then wants 10t of Painite. Painite can't be bought, only mined. The way to do it is to get a ship kitted out with mining lasers, collector limpets, refinery and cargo space.
This is myself usual Python for mining. Bear in mind this is specialised for mining and not much else. https://eddp.co/u/dP3pjBjl

You can get mining in any ship that has the module space for it if the cost is too much. The main thing to remember is to partially fill your cargo with limpets to program.
coriolis.edcd.io - Coriolis EDCD Edition
April 24, 2018 at 11:38 AM
Alexey Froloff (raorn) said…
I personally find mining very relaxing activity. My miner USCSS The Nostromo is Type-7 with 200 tons cargo space. I usually fill up 2/3 to 3/4 of it with limpets and mine outside of any RES.
April 24, 2018 at 11:42 AM
Ian Stoffberg said…
Thanks for the mining tips guys. I always had the challenge of being bugged by pirates the second I had anything good in the hold. I suppose to be safe I should wing up or do the mining outside the bubble. I don't know how people mined effectively without limpets back in the day.
April 24, 2018 at 11:57 AM
Martin Chalk said…
Definitely go mining with a friend or 2. For every player that places a prospecting limpet on a rock, the number of fragments you can chip off it multiplies. If you find a Painite bearing rock, you can place a prospector limpet on it and laser at it until exhausted. The next player comes along, places a prospector limpet on the same rock and lasers the fragments off. The first player is the only one with collector limpets active so they collect the fragments from the second player Do it again with a third player. It's a way to speed up hitting the 500t requirement far more quickly.
April 24, 2018 at 12:05 PM
Alexey Froloff (raorn) said…
You can do it in the Bubble, just stay far away from RES. Won't get high yield, but pretty safe. Don't start mining right away if there's someone around. Let them first scan your full-of-limpets cargo bay any fly away in disappointment.
April 24, 2018 at 12:07 PM
Alexey Froloff (raorn) said…
Martin Chalk do it in a HazRES with third friend killing off the pirates for more fun :-)
April 24, 2018 at 12:09 PM
Ian Stoffberg said…
Alexey Froloff I imagine with fighter bays, it can make life hard for pirates.
April 24, 2018 at 12:10 PM
Alexey Froloff (raorn) said…
From my experience, doing anything in a company is more fun than Han-style (Solo). For those tho don't like PvP there's always Private Groups. Your own or big ones like Mobius.
April 24, 2018 at 12:11 PM
John Corrigan said…
Ian Stoffberg Care is needed though, when using an NPC fighter pilot. If you set the fighter orders to Defend, the pilot will attack anything that shoots you, including system security and other clean pilots that hit you accidentally. It's not fun having a whole RES shooting at you. I normally try to mine somewhere quieter, or in HAZRESes in low security systems (if materials farming is a goal).
April 24, 2018 at 11:37 PM
Gwynfor said…
Ian Stoffberg First mining: do not enter at the resource point, every scumbag in the system visits the resource point. Therefore it is only safe for bounty hunting ;-).
Drop out near the resource point (approach slowly to avoid damage) and wait for the first pirates to greet you. At this time, your cargo hold should only contain limpets, which does not count as cargo for the pirates. After they complained about you starving their children and leaving the area, you can start mining. This way, I never encountered further visits from pirates.
April 25, 2018 at 4:28 AM
Gwynfor said…
Ian Stoffberg Second the decoded emission data: they are not grade 5, therefore could easily exchanged at the right trading point...
April 25, 2018 at 4:31 AM
Ian Stoffberg said…
Gwynfor I don't know what grade 5s I have. Must have a few though.
April 25, 2018 at 4:33 AM
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